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Marvel's Avengers Dev Responds To Backlash After Slowing Progression, Upsets Players Even More 

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BakedMoMo
BakedMoMo Uukausi sitten
it's that dark souls mentality, that masochistic streak born from the it & the culture... and applying it to games that doesnt need them
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Just save whole bunch of money from switching to geico.
9lives lie-cat-lie
9lives lie-cat-lie Uukausi sitten
So qustion how long before they add time savers to lol because player choice. Sighh
Benjamin of Houston
Benjamin of Houston 5 päivää sitten
It's obvious what problem this is really trying to address. The problem of not selling enough experience boosts microtransactions
Geoff Watkinson
Geoff Watkinson 8 päivää sitten
It's on psnow now so I might have a go as I don't have to install it
Dr No
Dr No 20 päivää sitten
Is the six players left that are complaining enough to constitute a “backlash”?
TheNameBrand
TheNameBrand 21 päivä sitten
Deus Ex died for this
Cloudy Nine
Cloudy Nine 26 päivää sitten
"It's your fault for still playin this bare minimum game!"
LunaDeaminac
LunaDeaminac 27 päivää sitten
This is why play testing is important. They should have had all of this ‘ding threshold’ thing ironed out BEFORE the game hits the market, especially if you want to make the grind worse. This isn’t people figuring out a way of manipulating current mechanics to be overpowered, that pretty much impossible to predict every possible ability combination and prevent OP combinations so nerfing that post release should be expected. Doing this just annoys your player base and makes you look sloppy/shady as a developer.
MC 117
MC 117 27 päivää sitten
And they should increase. I dont care. My all characters are lvl50. Just because you think the game is crap and you dont want to play it, and now maybe you want doesnt mean they should see you the same as me, who played the game from day one till now and still love it. This wont affect ppl who played the game all time along. And i hope that they increase the progression even more so that you need atleast 10-15hrs to level character to max level
Youhavetoguessit
Youhavetoguessit 28 päivää sitten
Anyone stupid enough to buy games from this developer anymore, you deserve to be disappointed. Vote with your dollar, stop being dumb. Plenty of good games out there worth your money.
Toosoo
Toosoo 29 päivää sitten
I ended the story around level 12 with most all of the characters. Playing each superhero only gets fun at level 40-50. Cause at that point you can do a wide array of moves. You can use multiple guns for widow, you can use multiple firing methods for iron man, you can smash stuff and heal people with khamala and you can do all the hulks moves and do all the throws and stuff with thor. Honestly they should speed the leveling process up so that it incentivises people to level multiple characters. If it's taking to long for them to develop new content, then they should develop an ARG or something to keep people mulling over stuff, though I guess that would mean they would have to make a fun game :/. The lack of transparency is also an issue. The go silent for weeks and then nothing but updates. No discussion or very little discussion about the games issues.
Ricky Sutanto
Ricky Sutanto 29 päivää sitten
you are repeating yourself a lot, not only between upload, even in a single content you really repeating too much
Brandon Khan
Brandon Khan 29 päivää sitten
In all fairness I would question the intelligence of people playing this game
Connor Broom
Connor Broom Uukausi sitten
"Playing the full avengers roster". More like half the roster, barely any content and stupid exclusive content. I'll continue with Marvel ultimate alliance 1 and 2. Way more fun, better content and less bullshit.
nam3l3ss z3r0
nam3l3ss z3r0 Uukausi sitten
There's nothing at endgame to really do, so they thought that meant it should take longer to do apparently. The grind was honestly the gear levels I think I had 3 characters leveled to max but none were even close to max gear.
JediPeaceWalker
JediPeaceWalker Uukausi sitten
Who asked for this change? No one.
Four Dozen Eggs
Four Dozen Eggs Uukausi sitten
The only thing confusing players are these incompetent devs and publishers that never listen. Seriously, they have millions of people to give them feedback on their game and they just close their ears and go LALALALALA. It's frustrating.
SparkTFS
SparkTFS Uukausi sitten
Now for a new episode of "How to make Marvel IPs Unprofitable 101"
eye776
eye776 Uukausi sitten
Soon in the shop: XP Booster (timesaver) only $4.99... most likely
Jaymz Raulfin
Jaymz Raulfin Uukausi sitten
wait wait wait... 3-5hr to lvl 1-50 in an mmo is to slow? na dawg i'm out of this argument unless someone can explane how that is actually slow. Thats 'I lvl in my spare time at work' time.
xRaalx
xRaalx Uukausi sitten
"grinding is content" mentality.
Natsuki Rei
Natsuki Rei Uukausi sitten
what shocks me is that Square enix is behind this game, they are usually better at these things, smarter, ffxiv is fantastic.
Blahander
Blahander Uukausi sitten
"You would get more skill points than you had time to review, apply, and get used to, before embarking on your next mission and gaining your next few levels. Hopefully, you can see the issue here." No, that is not an issue, that's just your opinion. In fact, it's not even an opinion, it's just an excuse you came up with.
Captain America
Captain America Uukausi sitten
Should be titled "how to alienate what players they have left!!"
Alphazone
Alphazone Uukausi sitten
Imagine being paid what they're being paid, but making these absolutely retarded decisions. I wish I could be paid dozens of thousands of dollars for being stupid.
TREXY MAN
TREXY MAN Uukausi sitten
Next update: we’ve add a xp boost that cost money.
Grim Sheppard
Grim Sheppard Uukausi sitten
In the news today: Rich preppy executives can't comprehend the concept of how to earn things 🥸
Steven Ritchie
Steven Ritchie Uukausi sitten
Pull the plug get rockstars to make a new game preferably x men.
Shawn Jackson
Shawn Jackson Uukausi sitten
This game is truly a pile of 💩
Ivan Nikitin
Ivan Nikitin Uukausi sitten
dont they have microtransactions in the game that boost the progression? my guess would be that they just want to nudge people to spend money
Kronse
Kronse Uukausi sitten
This game is so trash... I'm sorry but missions that are the same everytime, boring gameplay, grinding a shit ton and fucking microtransactions. I was so stoked about this game. I wanted to play it so bad because I loved the Spiderman games. They were phenomenal. And then they fucked up the Avengers game so bad... like... why?!
shadowman2101
shadowman2101 Uukausi sitten
Lol honestly this was one of the best things and I wish they would have increased the rate of getting power level lol. Getting to endgame was too long and it was just boring
shadowman2101
shadowman2101 Uukausi sitten
Another side note, is skills made a big impact sure their take on slowing things down would be great but the skills are shit. It’s doesnt change much and at this point the character needs those skills to feel whole since without it they feel horrible and gear does nothing
BladeChild
BladeChild Uukausi sitten
EA don't seem to realize people would rather spend 20 bucks on Valheim for 100+hrs worth of content with free reign over what they do, console commands if it's necessary. Hope the trend continues to shift
Doodie Farmz
Doodie Farmz Uukausi sitten
Wait I didn't know people still played this game? Last time I looked into it, had like 5 people playing lol
Liomar Navarro
Liomar Navarro Uukausi sitten
But Anthem 2.0 got cancelled 😞
SilentVinyl
SilentVinyl Uukausi sitten
No fun allowed
Matthew Ornelles
Matthew Ornelles Uukausi sitten
This is Crystal Dynamics version of Bungie’s “We’re Listening” meme. Did Luke Smith become a consultant for CD after getting moved to Bungie’s media and story team?
Storm
Storm Uukausi sitten
The punch line here is “new players”
Armydude300
Armydude300 Uukausi sitten
"How to kill a game, even more, speedrun any% flawless."
Crazy Raccoon
Crazy Raccoon Uukausi sitten
Bungie been real inspirational
i7iu7e
i7iu7e Uukausi sitten
I cannot believe some idiot really believed that getting too many skill points was overwhelming.
LuciFER THE GOD
LuciFER THE GOD Uukausi sitten
wow thanks,another reason to not play it.
Mornings Von COZY
Mornings Von COZY Uukausi sitten
Even if it was valid to claim "its too confusing to use multiple skillpoints at once" all that means is their skilltree itself is poorly made lol
FCOL D
FCOL D Uukausi sitten
Well, you want to skip the grind, I'm sure there's a lootbox for that.😋
Sonic The Hedgewhore
Sonic The Hedgewhore Uukausi sitten
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.. then it’s more “sense of pride and accomplishment” bs
josh
josh Uukausi sitten
This game bout to be the next anthem. I fully expect it to be abandoned this year.
Chad Cuervo
Chad Cuervo Uukausi sitten
I don’t understand this. I played it for some time and enjoyed it for the good that it had, but slowly it kept taking enjoyment away from me. So I became a cliche like everyone else and sold it but after this, it’s like, I sadly made the right move.
Scout 1032
Scout 1032 Uukausi sitten
I kinda like how everyone and I mean everyone is telling the developers what the problem is with the game. CONTENT. CONTENT. But to the developers believe XP
Brian Reedy
Brian Reedy Uukausi sitten
If they want to save this game make the elite hive missions multiplayer so playing with friends for exotic gear is the endgame gameplay is fun. Why have multiplayer if endgame is designed to be solo missions? Like wtf?
Starminer7Z7
Starminer7Z7 Uukausi sitten
When will this industry learn that, with few exceptions, throttling and slowing player progression in these types of games is never a good thing, the players hate it and it makes your game hemorrhage engagement and thus losing paying customers and player generated experiences It happened with destiny and others and it was immediately backpedaled when the players found out because it wasn’t good for business
B Mull
B Mull Uukausi sitten
Never bought this shitty game thank god . Waiting on bio mutant ya .
Junior Mphahlele
Junior Mphahlele Uukausi sitten
Either the developers are not listening to the community or they are not aware this is the opposite instead of dealing with the Grind. Thank God I didn't waste my money on a game like this.
Ethen Hunt
Ethen Hunt Uukausi sitten
Do these assholes not realise how much we've all grinded since the days of the snes ,and now they want us to grind more , is that a joke
Jordan Owens
Jordan Owens Uukausi sitten
Let me go level all my heroes up that's unlocked now although I don't play anymore to help me farm in the future wen I start playing again because I still have hope for this game 😔😔💔
Courtohnhake:ton
Courtohnhake:ton Uukausi sitten
lol new players
Ryan Lorenzo
Ryan Lorenzo Uukausi sitten
"So what's the problem?" Quote sounds like "Do you guys not have phones?"
MrZforce Hobbies
MrZforce Hobbies Uukausi sitten
Only complete morons would play this game or buy this game or care about these stupid changes
Behzad Mir Mozaffari
Behzad Mir Mozaffari Uukausi sitten
This is how Anthem died. Sad😓
Punisher Snake
Punisher Snake Uukausi sitten
wow... how many coffin nails are they going to hammer into this cash grab before they finally burry it?... it could of been so good but they got greedy... while being stupid... no good could ever come from that...
Evan Waller
Evan Waller Uukausi sitten
So wait.... You can't see downvotes on reddit anymore?
Fajar Ardli
Fajar Ardli Uukausi sitten
- ey man, our game is too grindy, you know what we needed right now? - double grind! - you are promoted!
PC-98
PC-98 Uukausi sitten
This game would've been dead(er) on arrival if not for its title and characters.
Sabanas Algodon
Sabanas Algodon Uukausi sitten
teodio
WhiteK
WhiteK Uukausi sitten
Double down and game die twice as fast ... not suprise, pride not gonna do shit if they dont even understant their own game
That Vision
That Vision Uukausi sitten
This game man smh wow they dropped the ball on this
B I
B I Uukausi sitten
How in the world did these people think this was a good idea? The game is already dead and now they are going to bury it
Balisongs for Breakfast
I feel like most games that come out now are like gimmicky copouts and story and content are merely afterthoughts
Chickenbowser
Chickenbowser Uukausi sitten
"confusing and overwhelming to new players"...what new players?
MysteryMrR
MysteryMrR Uukausi sitten
Topic starts at 5:30
HuntersHotTakes
HuntersHotTakes Uukausi sitten
They are no doubt gunna add booster dlc for xp in about a month
I smell trouble
I smell trouble Uukausi sitten
If you don't know how to kill abomination in one hit then you aren't playing the game right anyways
MuraXLR
MuraXLR Uukausi sitten
This kind of reminds me of what The Secret World did with it's re-release. Said that the ability wheel was too intimidating for new players(kind of is to be fair.) So they did away with it and way dumbed down skills, killing all ability/weapon synergies. Killed what I thought was a fun aspect, there was so much to play around with. Now it's pretty limited and basic.
Radfoxy Blue
Radfoxy Blue Uukausi sitten
players ?!
Thiago Araujo Medeiros
Thiago Araujo Medeiros Uukausi sitten
At least you reached endgame content, I couldn't play on steam, it's simply unbearable with all bugs and crashes.
Junior Mphahlele
Junior Mphahlele Uukausi sitten
...What the hell?
Trey Anderson
Trey Anderson Uukausi sitten
I for one am very thankful for this slowdown. Getting too many skills all at once hurts my head! I am so glad that I get to take it slow, some of you all may know how to play games good, but the dumber players like me really need these developers treating us like what we are. Dumbasses
AwkwardRenegade
AwkwardRenegade Uukausi sitten
So combat is actually interesting when all the moves are unlocked? In other words they purposely broke the game so you'd pay to make it less terrible.
JC Denton
JC Denton Uukausi sitten
Honestly thought it was a mobile game when people were talking about it....
Dickon Brant
Dickon Brant Uukausi sitten
The only way this would make sense was if this included a tech tree rework, bringing the good stuff earlier on, so you can have more fun. But I guess they did the easiest part.
Adrian A. Johannessen
Adrian A. Johannessen Uukausi sitten
Surprise mechanics when?
Isslam Bouabdallah
Isslam Bouabdallah Uukausi sitten
They want to kill this game faster
TheStabbyBrit
TheStabbyBrit Uukausi sitten
Meanwhile, you can easily go from rank 0 to 30 (max rank) in Warframe in just 20-30 minutes, especially with a booster, which is a potential login bonus.
Belakitu
Belakitu Uukausi sitten
Who asked for this? Nobody asked for this XD
Christian Bradley
Christian Bradley Uukausi sitten
The real issue here is that of the few poor souls still playing Avengers, not enough of them are paying money for progression on their battle passes. Gotta make the game more grindy so that the people left feel more pressure to spend.
G D
G D Uukausi sitten
This is prepping for the Free-2-Play model soon.
CBlade0
CBlade0 Uukausi sitten
Here's my only thing -- yes this is a AAA game in a sense and yes it's a live service, but my guess is that Square Enix didn't have a lot to say about the direction, and Crystal Dynamics ended up here. I think we've passed the point of knocking Crystal Dynamics and their semi-struggling publisher and maybe give the devs something to shoot for without killing their spirits. They did a heck of a job rebooting Tomb Raider, and although their writing struggled and innovation slowed down, they are capable of much more, and we should maybe inspire more guidance for them to improve on their next venture lest they be swallowed up :(
Silent Spectre
Silent Spectre Uukausi sitten
I'm surprised people actually bought and played this game.
Aaron Benedetti
Aaron Benedetti Uukausi sitten
They'll probably sell EXP boosters for real money to fix the issue of slow progression caused by their fix for the issue of fast progression. And idiots will buy into it. Somebody kill me please.
XWolf BladeX
XWolf BladeX Uukausi sitten
You'd think after the unbelievable nightmare of anthem an how that game completely failed, that companies would learn from this! Anthem did the exact opposite of what the fans wanted, and what happened...... It got shelved! The idea didn't work, major let down, and the gaming community gave bioware and ea more then enough feedback about what was wrong with it.. They didn't listen, it died... Yet here we are again, an the same mistakes are being made, doing the opposite of what is needed and fixing issues that don't even exist 🤣.. So the second this update goes live it's basically the end of avengers, it won't last must after as players will just give up just like they did with anthem! In a funny way it almost feels like these triple A titles are going out of there way to actually fail on purpose??
Nick
Nick Uukausi sitten
It doesn’t even make sense. It’s not like they have microtransactions to level you up. They’re literally just stupid.
Kurs3
Kurs3 Uukausi sitten
Basically they need more time to put out content. lol
Akairenn
Akairenn Uukausi sitten
Ugh, *grind*....the anti-game, anti-fun, anti-worth-playing word.
Cancer Connoisseur
Cancer Connoisseur Uukausi sitten
This entire dev cycle has been "foot in mouth" every step of the way.
AmonRa
AmonRa Uukausi sitten
I also want to point out that, as someone who has a lvl 50, the reason we the players view skills much later when theres a bunch of them is cos the skills are kinda un interesting and repetitive across the board for most heroes we already start with all the powers, after that its all just power buffs
AmonRa
AmonRa Uukausi sitten
Its very stupid unless they buff skills dramatically like more than 200% so that skill points actually become meaningful the way they initially wanted , but exp grind alone is faktarded
jack daniels
jack daniels Uukausi sitten
Xp booster incoming.
Kevin Carignan
Kevin Carignan Uukausi sitten
I can't even fathom how this decision was made
Brain freeze
Brain freeze Uukausi sitten
It really makes no sense when you break down their post. They say they want people to be able to explore their skills, yet most gameplay changing skills will be unlocked early on. The second half of the skill points are just stat boosts and will not affect gameplay. They are targeting this second half so it is really stupid. You really think I need time to get used to a 15% stun increase?!?!
NANO
NANO Uukausi sitten
Everyone of these always online RPG games is absolute garbage, even Destiny. It's just mash buttons on very tanky enemy till you win. It's just a constant grind of the same lame content that you previously played a million times, all in the quest for better gear and more XP. See unlike real RPG's like Zelda and stuff that had actually interesting quests and good content to discover, these games are the most cookie cutter, generic garbage, where you fight the same generic random AI enemy and "boss" (which is just a generic AI with a larger body or color change). The quests are almost always boring, the characters are either boring or given little time to be fleshed out so the story ends up being boring and the gear is so hard to find unless you spend days trying to get particular items. The gear you get is entirely always luck based, meaning you don't have to have any skill to win or even finish the quests in a particular way to be rewarded. They almost always make the gear easier to get if you pay money, meaning again, the game isn't rewarding. Or they simply make you grind forever, which again is not rewarding in the slightest, it's just a time sink. On top of that, if you want the best gear, you have to level all the way to get to the best gear, meaning you have to sink even more time as a new player to be anywhere near competitive in any PvP mode they have. I dunno why people find this type of game fun.
Allustar Plays
Allustar Plays Uukausi sitten
How do they even have the little amount of players they have now?
Blaxomoose
Blaxomoose Uukausi sitten
and that my friends is how you loose a player base
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