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Linux Lover_84
Linux Lover_84 4 päivää sitten
@AntDaGamer*ADG Entertainment Friends of mine are working on a game they've asked me to help write the story for. Doesn't this occur on other platforms (ie. Steam) where good games don't get spotlighted unless they get a high amount of sales (or at worst, due to politics)? I'm asking so I could discuss this with them so they can get an idea of what to expect. Thanks.
grimm reaperMK2
grimm reaperMK2 21 päivä sitten
@Little Tiffany then here's a question for you before Sony decided to withdraw all PS5 shipments to make a new model of PS5 why couldn't you find one on the shelves in stores tell me that because I already know the answer to it and it's not because people were buying it up in stores and mind you this is a question that span stores worldwide
grimm reaperMK2
grimm reaperMK2 21 päivä sitten
@Little Tiffany I am not talking about them going to the official company website I'm talking about the scalpers going on to other companies websites such as Best Buy Gamestop Target Walmart and other big name stores and companies that's so game consoles and buying up all of the product and you are wrong about 8% of the console's being bought up I don't know where you get your information but you are clearly wrong people can barely get the PS5 and new gen Xbox and if what you were saying is true why have I have not seen anybody on the PS5 when you bring up their gamertag it says that they are on the PS5 I have barely seen anybody on the PS5 so I know that you are incorrect and out of my 60 friends on PSN only five of them have the PS5
grimm reaperMK2
grimm reaperMK2 21 päivä sitten
@Little Tiffany you must not have any idea what's going on in the world today have you even been to an online store and looked up PS5 or Xbox x Series you cannot even find these consoles in a store on a Shelf the same goes for online scalpers are buying up everything this isn't just a problem do to a pandemic if you go to websites like Amazon or other websites that ship stuff to people worldwide you will find the PS5 and many other consoles as well as the Mario All Stars game I've seen these being sold for 1000$ or more those are scalpers that bought the company's product and are reselling it which is highly illegal to do because said products are copyrighted which means you're not allowed to resell it or sell it and general without the company's explicit permission as for the Microsoft censorship you are wrong on that account the only reason why Japanese companies do not wish to work with Microsoft is because of their reputation for stabbing companies in the back and shutting them down or causing them to go into a state of bankruptcy so they can take over there IPS Microsoft has done this for years Bill Gates the founder of Microsoft made his fortune by stealing another person's program chip that was the start for the first-ever computer model that they did not copyright as a result Bill Gates got away with stealing that new technology and made his fortune off of it the person who he stole the technology from could not do anything because they did not copyright it to legally claim it's theirs listen I know you're trying to protect Yung yah all I'm doing is merely calling him out on a few things that he is wrong about I am not trying to bully him or attack him or anyting all I'm stating is that he needs to do a little more research before he talks about certain things that's the only thing I was pointing out to him
Little Tiffany
Little Tiffany 21 päivä sitten
@grimm reaperMK2 Scalpers own less than 8% of Playstation 5s. Because most purchased Playstation 5s are actually online. A scalper would not go on PSN network either. You are wrong
Alejandro Téllez C.
Alejandro Téllez C. 5 päivää sitten
I would not call it "Platform X", given that unaware gamers may mistake it for the actual console that has relation with the letter "X". XD
Xenophon122088
Xenophon122088 9 päivää sitten
I am about ready to boycott Playstation all together. Their treatment of inde developers is disgusting. Funny how Steam doesn't seem to have problems supporting the 'little guy.'
RetardskillMe
RetardskillMe 10 päivää sitten
Lol, but this guy's NeonDoctrine games look really bad...
Tesler Coil
Tesler Coil 10 päivää sitten
i never knew the blog existed
Celphalon RED
Celphalon RED 11 päivää sitten
Sony remains as trash, got it. Unsurprising.
Benito Sierra Jr
Benito Sierra Jr 11 päivää sitten
This goes to show that the PlayStation brand cares about that “Triple AAA games” mentality and it really goes over their head.
Sleeper_san
Sleeper_san 13 päivää sitten
Most of my favorite games are indie games! Cuphead, Subnautica, Puss!, Castle Crashers- We deserve better from Sony!
Dodgson, we've got Dodgson here!
If you support Sony, you're guilty of this.
David Murphy
David Murphy 15 päivää sitten
At this rate, PlayStation’s appeal will solely be based on its mostly fine exclusives (occasionally great, but occasionally terrible as well). I don’t think that’s enough to support a modern gaming ecology - even Nintendo has learned that and they just found out that Betamax isn’t a thing anymore.
Zoro Hack
Zoro Hack 16 päivää sitten
Sounds like Sony alright...
Gary Jones
Gary Jones 17 päivää sitten
If you don't make 25000 from Playstation sales. Does the bridge really exists
Aurora Gaming
Aurora Gaming 19 päivää sitten
I prefer PlayStation I mean I own 1-4. Indie games are commonly more creative than AAA games and my second favorite game is Hollow Knight and if I can’t play these hidden gems then I’ll just start playing on Plumber With a Wrench
Moon
Moon 19 päivää sitten
As a PlayStation player since I was a child, I feel compelled to switch to a different platform. Proficient Sergeant and Plumber without a Wrench certainly do seem intriguing choices.
Fontas Georgopoulos
Fontas Georgopoulos 20 päivää sitten
I have a PS4 and own 100+ 2d indie games physical. Every week new such releases come out, there is no shortage. What is the problem exactly? I d like to know.
Fontas Georgopoulos
Fontas Georgopoulos 20 päivää sitten
Bring on the indies. Fick
krystalfan
krystalfan 20 päivää sitten
indie dev: so you want us to censor our game? sony: yes indie dev: ok what part requires censorship? sony: yes
Don V
Don V 20 päivää sitten
Sounds like typical Sony
J Harju
J Harju 20 päivää sitten
They should work on their Quality Control, too. There are some vile, overpriced, asset flip-looking indie scams available on the PS Store.
PittenZak94
PittenZak94 20 päivää sitten
Sony acting like the Apple of game consoles
Otis Miller
Otis Miller 20 päivää sitten
Looking at this as a developer and a consumer. Personally I don't think consoles are really made for Indie Games. Having a Playstation is so you can play God of War and FF7R. Then when an 'indie' game gets really big, it will then show up on the PS Store and casual consumers (console gamers) don't get overwhelmed with too many choices. If you're an indie dev, pretty much Steam is the only option for you if you don't want to do all that nepotism and schmoozing stuff. I think if I make a really good game, GoG will give it a fair shot. But I never imagined that anyone on the Playstation Store can really call themselves Indie.
Sinistar
Sinistar 21 päivä sitten
I've been trying to publish on vita for quite awhile. Of course sony is closing the store this month. And I've ended up canceling the port because I'm tired on trying to meet a unobtainable deadline
Fire Stuka
Fire Stuka 21 päivä sitten
Soooo.... I play on my PC more. I have all switch, ps4 pro, Xbox 360 , and PC between myself and my wife. We play on pc most. Everyone run from playstation until they change their mind.
Leo Borg
Leo Borg 22 päivää sitten
This is really sad and needs to change.
Inazuma65
Inazuma65 22 päivää sitten
My Sony boycott will continue! Thanks for the reminder.
Xerazal
Xerazal 23 päivää sitten
Sony is back in the mindset they had when the ps3 was launching. Their heads so far up their own asses they thought what they said would go without any question. Then PS did horribly compared to the competition and for the ps4 (early on anyways) they were humble. Well, their heads are far up their own asses again and it looks like the community (both gamers and devs) are gonna have to really speak with their wallets again to keep them in check. Because sony is being greedy on so many fronts yet again.
Vokul Marcus
Vokul Marcus 23 päivää sitten
Sony just can't win lately 😕
Princess Ozzina
Princess Ozzina 24 päivää sitten
This most likely had something to do with them moving the Playstation HQ to California instead of Japan sometime during the PS4 lifecycle. A bunch of people who had nothing to do with building the brand are in charge now and likely have no idea what they're doing. This very much reminds me of Japanese indies complaining that they had to submit their games to the US HQ in English even if they had no intention of releasing their game outside of Japan.
TM
TM 24 päivää sitten
Sony keep fucking around and watch what happens
Tony Sofia
Tony Sofia 24 päivää sitten
Commenting to appease the algorithm
InugamiTheHound
InugamiTheHound 24 päivää sitten
IMO indie devs and japanese devs should leave sony and come to the xbox and PC and nintendo. They will get treated better and make money
HCUhardcoreUnited
HCUhardcoreUnited 24 päivää sitten
Sounds like Sony is gatekeeping.
Kill Me so I can Respawn
Kill Me so I can Respawn 24 päivää sitten
It’s getting really embarrassing to say I’m a PlayStation owner. And that’s a kick in the gut after how fantastic and nostalgic the PS2 was
WongGamSingLegacy
WongGamSingLegacy 24 päivää sitten
Sony PlayStation are killing themselves & Xbox doesn't even have to do anything.
MasterDk78
MasterDk78 24 päivää sitten
haha, its made in china, what kinda service do they exspect? just wave some money at them, and they will listen, curruption works in china
Marcel Kwiatkowski
Marcel Kwiatkowski 24 päivää sitten
Well it just goes to show what Sony thinks of their customers - "braindead animals that'll buy anything we sell them anyway". Moving the company to America was a mistake.
The Laughing Storm Born Again
The Laughing Storm Born Again 24 päivää sitten
Mega corporations are going to do what they do. Which is put proffit above all else and specifically short term proffits. Anyone with any common sense knows investing in indie games is how the Mega corporations find new IPs to make more proffit. They have to make the most shallow, short sided decisions because that's how capitalism works. Burn long term bridges for short term proffits. Imagine if Minecraft had to go through Sony before it got popular. They would have tanked it and no one would be playing it today.
AJR 9946
AJR 9946 24 päivää sitten
I just wish the ps store didn't look like steam greenlight
khuantru
khuantru 24 päivää sitten
i doubt playstation cares, they are the ones making silly demands for cross play. It does not fit the paystation motto unfortunately
Paul Meier
Paul Meier 24 päivää sitten
you're getting fat
Jas R
Jas R 24 päivää sitten
No, we need to talk about your change of venue. Where are you right now?
K7TZ
K7TZ 24 päivää sitten
This is why we need a vita 2
Agent of FLAMINGO314
Agent of FLAMINGO314 25 päivää sitten
How shocking, that PlayStation, who has obviously been screwing over indie devs in broad daylight, is confirmed to be screwing over indie devs in private. (Big Bang Theory *sarcasm* sign)
juliox9
juliox9 25 päivää sitten
Well they asked for it if you ask me, i mean making playstation to main target, making the main version of their games and then giving the other platforms shitty ports, giving special features just for the ps version. They pretty much have been bowing to sony and then sony thinks it can do anithyng it wants because of it.
F C
F C 25 päivää sitten
Video on no free upgrade for Ghost of Tsushima, please
LiK
LiK 25 päivää sitten
Haven’t been watching all your videos, I see you got a house now! Nice dude.
Featherlan
Featherlan 25 päivää sitten
Like one famous Patrickk Boivin once said, the console wars are over; the industry now consists of the two big ones essentially seeing how far they can run before tripping on their dicks and eating shit; it was Microsoft last time, now it's Sony's turn. The circle continues
Brownicus Fut IV
Brownicus Fut IV 25 päivää sitten
I'm sure they care lol I bet this is vitiating Sony's offices as we speak
Jeremy M
Jeremy M 25 päivää sitten
Indies are the ones who think up new and intriguing mechanics that the big developers steal to make their games better 😉
FitzChivalryFarseer2
FitzChivalryFarseer2 25 päivää sitten
Funny how steam acts more Japanese in attitude then Playstation or Nintendo does.
Raiyn121B
Raiyn121B 25 päivää sitten
As someone’s who used to applaud how Sony handled third parties on older generations. Sony has become too full of itself these past few generations to their extreme detriment.
George M
George M 25 päivää sitten
PlayStation is going downhill badly. They removed messaging and trophies from their own website and they didn’t bother telling all the indie devs about the PS store closing.
Miguel Silva
Miguel Silva 25 päivää sitten
To this day I still don't understand why the ps4 store doesnt have a wishlist when viewing from the console itself. I need to keep remembering which games I thought might interest me in a given time.
Oroberus
Oroberus 25 päivää sitten
This really looks like Indie just not being part of Sonys business plan, unfortunately :(
V3ntilator
V3ntilator 25 päivää sitten
Sony is just a old dinosaur that sadly still lives on the glory days of PS2. Personally i think PS3 gen were their best.
M64bros
M64bros 25 päivää sitten
Off topic opinion: so.... do you guys think Marvel's Avengers will redeem itself or doubt it once Spider-Man comes to PlayStation?
M64bros
M64bros 24 päivää sitten
@Symmetry with ornament yeah I probably knew one of you guys would say that. I'm just going to stick to my switch and play Marvel Ultimate alliance 3.
Symmetry with ornament
Symmetry with ornament 24 päivää sitten
No
the7observer
the7observer 25 päivää sitten
And Sony increased prices of Brazil region (even though games are already expensive there) for no good reason
Joseph R3grET
Joseph R3grET 25 päivää sitten
Sony, the new EA of publishers. "Want a promotion? That'll be $25k. Dont worry. It's quite fun and quite ethical."
Crimson Orion
Crimson Orion 25 päivää sitten
You gonna make a video on doom eternal PS5 upgrade? Because this whole save thing with Sony is getting annoying and out of hand
Clapper Dan
Clapper Dan 25 päivää sitten
How does Playstation have Shuhei Yoshida in charge of their indie department and it's this crappy? What the hell, Shu?
Azrael EdT
Azrael EdT 25 päivää sitten
That's what you get with sony. Sony is just one step better then EA for me personally.
Brandon Cepeda
Brandon Cepeda 25 päivää sitten
Do not let Ninedots Studio die, they the dopest devs ngl.
THE16THPHANTOM
THE16THPHANTOM 25 päivää sitten
think they do it on purpose because they have the biggest platform and can afford to be dicks about it
DiscardedZombie
DiscardedZombie 25 päivää sitten
And people are saying steam is ridiculous. I've kicked Sony to the curb a decade ago when they buried their own good exclusives (twisted metal). I'm fed up with consoles.
Usman Khan
Usman Khan 25 päivää sitten
Dude no offense but put some effort into your videos, I didn't click on this just to see you read a guys twitter thread.
Human Version3
Human Version3 25 päivää sitten
Tomorrow: “oh, and Microsoft screws over indies too,er, huh, LETS TALK ABOUT IN-GAME ADS!” I can’t tell if gaming news is getting over sensationalized or if there’s bias, but there’s no darlings left in the gaming space aside from indie developers. Next week it’ll be someone else doing something else, followed by the collective (albeit feigned) collective gasp from influencers… yadda yadda. Anyway, this isn’t about YY’s content, love the channel, but this news is always cyclical, rotating between each platform. It’s big business. CDPR proved it, EA proves it, every major publisher and console creator proves it… And do you know why it’ll never change - or - at least take a long time to accomplish? Because Activision made $5.6 Billion in micro transactions (and subscriptions etc) in 2020. Lots of people say they’ll boycott and no one actually does. We take out our frustrations in comment sections but still buy the things we enjoy. Ahhh. End of rant. I love my fellow gamers, and our love of games is being monetized. It’s hard out here for us p*mps.
Mockingbird7504
Mockingbird7504 25 päivää sitten
It's like these companies take turns being 'the shitty one' every generation 🤣
holamoco17
holamoco17 25 päivää sitten
Unsubbed
GUTZ4GARTERZ
GUTZ4GARTERZ 25 päivää sitten
Yep Sony suck ... The boring exclusives are getting old BETHESDA 💗💗💗💗💗
d k
d k 25 päivää sitten
Sony is a scumbag company they threat indy developers like shit, if you want cross play you got to pay as a dev, they also come at customers hard who do something that they don't like. No support for this trash company from me
Plume of Smoke
Plume of Smoke 25 päivää sitten
Never heard of Itch which says everything. Thinking about parting ways with Sony and going Xbox this generation.
lasarousi
lasarousi 25 päivää sitten
Oh no independent developers are tired of being independent because that doesn't rack up the profits that the majority of these people expected The only passion most of indie devs have is cut short when they notice they NEED to make a living out of that miniscule passion they displayed. No sympathy for those who are concerned about the means of distribution and not developing a worthwhile piece of media.
Paton Van Aensland
Paton Van Aensland 25 päivää sitten
As a PlayStation user, what can I do to help and make Sony enact change in this?
Fiery Tiger Gaming
Fiery Tiger Gaming 17 päivää sitten
Agreed, SOMETHING has to be done before it's too late
Per Nielsen
Per Nielsen 25 päivää sitten
Good news for Microsoft...
SeekerNami
SeekerNami 25 päivää sitten
Wait a minute .. Sony "Life of Black Tiger" is this incredibly shitty towards indie Devs? Then how in the world did that black tiger even get its own trailer on the PS YT channel? How much money did the Devs have in pocket?!
Davo Ap
Davo Ap 25 päivää sitten
Well at least Nintendo and Xbox are indie dev friendly. This is Sony's loss that they can afford to lose.
Zinho Megaman
Zinho Megaman 25 päivää sitten
The best graphics and cinematic gameplay, as Jim Ryan once said.
Henyu Jurai
Henyu Jurai 25 päivää sitten
Soyny's C bomb censorship and now this is even more reason for me not to buy a PS5 soyny been going downhill here lately
SilverFatalis 5653
SilverFatalis 5653 25 päivää sitten
I'm surprised you guys haven't covered the apex legends server hack by titanfall supporters
Kpizzle 937
Kpizzle 937 26 päivää sitten
Sounds like the guy didn't get his way and now he's blaming Sony for not putting his stuff on their platform I could care less
Or Or
Or Or 25 päivää sitten
He is not the only one...
Jamal Peoples
Jamal Peoples 26 päivää sitten
If I am a business why would need to promote your game if it's not something that going to make money. Why wouldn't you promote your own game? Sony isn't neglecting them. They are neglecting themselves. Indie games are a niche. He also sounds stupid. Every fucking store in the world tells people what they can sell their product for. This is no different. Do people not know how business works? Most of these games are on Xbox so with a pass. When I look up a Indie someone tells me about the 1st thing I check is if it's on Pass. If it is why in the hwll would I purchase it on PS. That doesn't make sense. Sound like we have that have zero business sense. If someone is going to list your game in their store of course they aren't going to let you sell it for a discounted price. They would make less money. Are these people idiots. I put like this if it's so bad advertise yourself , open and host your own storefront on the side.
Donovan Greenwood
Donovan Greenwood 26 päivää sitten
Ah sony, The apple of the console world. Where nickel and diming, proprietary hardware and full ownership of your data is commonplace. It really is hard to feel sorry for anyone that is still buying their products in 2021. Because at this point they've had so much overwhelming evidence yet chosen to ignore it that its just time we let them suffer. I'm a PC gamer, don't own a console but I've always found the US's obsession with sony rather strange. Like are you guys really shocked that they act in such a proprietary way? i mean, correct me if im wrong but didn't the US nuke these guys?. I'm no Xbox fanboy but at least it's an American company.. subject to American law with its focus player base being in the US. TLDR: Stop buying PlayStations, Nostalgia isn't worth it, There are far better options out there.
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Indie devs should protest and pull out of the PS store if their business model isn't treating them well. They will still have alternative platforms to sell their products on.
Spade
Spade 26 päivää sitten
No wonder why I tend to buy more games on my Switch rather than my PS4.
Deetsitmeister
Deetsitmeister 26 päivää sitten
Sure, put them on blast... If you dig through what the guy has been attached to, it's literally nothing I've ever heard of. He's so fucking salty they aren't bending the rules because his "hard" work is getting ignored. Sony are more than happy to promote the shit out of quality games just because you haven't made anything worthwhile doesn't mean you should cry about, what a little bitch. Rocket League is the perfect example, they made the exact same game with a shit name before, that nobody paid any attention to, Sony takes a chance and puts them as a PS Plus launch title and now it's one of the biggest games ever that would have been ignored completely if it wasn't for that. People seem to not give a shit about anything good anyone does and then as soon as something negative happens, they are on it like shit on flies. Yong, you've got a bad habit of only covering negative topics.
Firestorm Danger Dash
Firestorm Danger Dash 26 päivää sitten
Just to make it clear, its milder more hidden to find indie games on xbox one compared to 360. 360 really made finding wacky indie games fun to try and play.
Nytrusdeathcyde
Nytrusdeathcyde 26 päivää sitten
not to mention that radiculas fee for cross platform play
Nomiko
Nomiko 26 päivää sitten
Sony is the least consumer and developer-friendly platform recently. Censorship, shady deals with crossplay with epic, shady indie dev relations, metacritic above all else policy etc...
derick moore
derick moore 26 päivää sitten
First time I've even heard of playstation blog
AndreiGontcharov
AndreiGontcharov 26 päivää sitten
Did I miss something? YongYea, why you in the basement?
Ratus
Ratus 26 päivää sitten
So...am I the only idiot who thought it said YOND
Coddiwomple :
Coddiwomple : 26 päivää sitten
Consoles are for noobs. Indies are always welcome with us enlightened PC master race.
Crunchy Blend
Crunchy Blend 26 päivää sitten
Because most indie games are shovelware garbage! Look at the nintendo eshop and steam you will see so many garbage indie games. Sony quality checks indie games so none of this shovelware gets on the psn store
Captain Obvious!!!
Captain Obvious!!! 26 päivää sitten
Sony fanboys: at least they have a platform
SRGI Productions
SRGI Productions 26 päivää sitten
This is why I play on PC.
moremonstersco
moremonstersco 26 päivää sitten
From a user point of view I have been complaining about how indie games are served up on PS Store for years. The UI sucks and is unpleasant to use, especially when looking for indie titles. It’s such a hassle I have been trained not to buy indie games on PS. It’s so much easier and more enjoyable to play indie games literally anywhere else.
Sebastian John
Sebastian John 26 päivää sitten
surprised to see that steam sales are also low. cos i see steam promoting indie games a lot
EvenstarTV
EvenstarTV 26 päivää sitten
I won’t be surprised if epic games store indie games sales are better than PlayStation at this point.
Chad Hellgado
Chad Hellgado 26 päivää sitten
“Now I’m pissed!” - Billy Mays
nateo
nateo 26 päivää sitten
I swear Indie developers are treated like shit it’s so unfair.
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